Nanny State. Literally.
Article can be found here:
http://www.slate.com/id/2155101/?GT1=8900
Wow. I can't say I'm too terribly surprised, but I am a little disappointed...
"dedicated parenting experts" ? One wonders what exactly this means. I mean, the article elaborates on it, but I'm wondering if said parenting experts are parents themselves or do they just have degrees in teaching people how to raise their children?
First I have to make it clear that I think that there is nothing wrong, indeed there is something commendable about new parents going and signing up for classes on how to look after their children. Fine, good, etc. But as for the parenting experts... I _think_ people have done fairly well with them before now...
"He promised not to interfere with "normal family life."" My, what a relief. Because we all know that politicians keep their promises and that social workers are really interested in the health and wellbeing of the family. Yay.
"(this idea) prompted libertarian grumbling about government incursion into the family sphere. This seemed like a fair criticism in light of Home Secretary John Reid's statement that parents who shut the door on the supernannies might find themselves facing a court order to open it."
Err?! I don't think it takes a libertarian to grumble about that... I mean, I'm an independent (insert obligatory comment about how I'm throwing my vote away here) and I'd grumble about that too. I mean, isn't it the parents' business how they go about raising their children? Can't they tell the state politely: "Thanks, but no thanks," without getting into trouble? All right, they're disadvantaged, but should the state be going about helping them- with court orders no less? Admittedly the article doesn't seem too sure about whether or not said orders would be issued, but the possibility is there. Where is a non-governmental (ie religious) outreach program to these people? Do they _want_ such a program? And if they don't, should it be forced on them? Should home-life be mandated by the government? Because it starts here and ends up with the government telling you who you can marry, when and how many children you can have... All right, that may take a while but I'm sure there's a plan somewhere for it...
I'm all for two of David Olds' goals- "To improve prenatal health and outcomes at birth; to improve child health and development by reducing bad or abusive parenting." The last one "and to help mothers space out future pregnancies, go to school, and find jobs." I'm not so sure about. So, the problem is mainly the mothers who are _obviously_ having children irresponsibly (because it's not like they actually _think_ about these things, they just breed like animals >mind the sarcasm<), _obviously_ would love to go to school except for these pesky new lives they've brought into the world, and _obviously_ take jobs because that would be much more fulfilling than being a stay-at-home mum. Nobody does that anymore!
Arrgh.. It's frustrating. Maybe these women would like to be in school and getting jobs. Maybe they'd prefer to be _able_ to stay home, to not have to work insane hours to keep their family fed. Has anyone asked them? I think that some of their own lack of shall we say... talent? in parenting, is due to the fact that their _own_ parents didn't teach them how. Somewhere along the line, other things were just too important, and given how the modern family seems to be unravelling it's a bit of a wonder that _anyone_ still raises their own children!
I just wish that people (not necessarily in this order) had more common sense, spoke to their neighbours more often, joined a church with a good outreach program (preferably a Catholic church), and tried to connect to their family a little more. Yes, the modern family needs help, but I don't think it needs state-funded and legislated help to raise the children. I think that the only way they'll really get it right is to go inward as it were. But no one does that anymore. Religion is _so_ passe! Unless it's Wicca, 'cause then you can curse people or bless them with stones. Isn't it kewl?!
>Sigh<
And now for something completely different- courtesy of the Rinkworks crazy libs.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created blue, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable hopes, that among these are Joy, Anonymity, and the pursuit of Endurance.--That to secure these hopes, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes battered of these ends, it is the Right of the People to ignore or to irritate it, and to embellish new Government, laying its foundation on such thoughts and confusing its memories in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Studiousness and Endurance. Intelligence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long plinked should not be changed for light and rubbishy causes; and perfunctorily all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to yawn, while realities are sufferable, than to whack themselves by prophesising the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and bookshelves, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to clean them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their religiousity, to fork such Government, and to lift new fools for christ for their future security.--Such has been the messy sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which maligns them to drop their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Plumber of Shopworn Britain is a history of repeated injuries and memoires, all having in direct object the establishment of a well-read Tyranny over these States.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America do solemnly publish and blink, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Red and Modern States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Chair, and that all political connection between them and the State of Shopworn Britain, is and ought to be totally spoke; and that as Red and Modern States, they have full Power to upend War, skewer Peace, ninjafy Cupidities, defeat Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Modern States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence, we mutually rule to each other our socks, our hangars and our sacred stupidity.
-- Corrupted excerpt from "The Declaration of Independence
http://www.slate.com/id/2155101/?GT1=8900
Wow. I can't say I'm too terribly surprised, but I am a little disappointed...
"dedicated parenting experts" ? One wonders what exactly this means. I mean, the article elaborates on it, but I'm wondering if said parenting experts are parents themselves or do they just have degrees in teaching people how to raise their children?
First I have to make it clear that I think that there is nothing wrong, indeed there is something commendable about new parents going and signing up for classes on how to look after their children. Fine, good, etc. But as for the parenting experts... I _think_ people have done fairly well with them before now...
"He promised not to interfere with "normal family life."" My, what a relief. Because we all know that politicians keep their promises and that social workers are really interested in the health and wellbeing of the family. Yay.
"(this idea) prompted libertarian grumbling about government incursion into the family sphere. This seemed like a fair criticism in light of Home Secretary John Reid's statement that parents who shut the door on the supernannies might find themselves facing a court order to open it."
Err?! I don't think it takes a libertarian to grumble about that... I mean, I'm an independent (insert obligatory comment about how I'm throwing my vote away here) and I'd grumble about that too. I mean, isn't it the parents' business how they go about raising their children? Can't they tell the state politely: "Thanks, but no thanks," without getting into trouble? All right, they're disadvantaged, but should the state be going about helping them- with court orders no less? Admittedly the article doesn't seem too sure about whether or not said orders would be issued, but the possibility is there. Where is a non-governmental (ie religious) outreach program to these people? Do they _want_ such a program? And if they don't, should it be forced on them? Should home-life be mandated by the government? Because it starts here and ends up with the government telling you who you can marry, when and how many children you can have... All right, that may take a while but I'm sure there's a plan somewhere for it...
I'm all for two of David Olds' goals- "To improve prenatal health and outcomes at birth; to improve child health and development by reducing bad or abusive parenting." The last one "and to help mothers space out future pregnancies, go to school, and find jobs." I'm not so sure about. So, the problem is mainly the mothers who are _obviously_ having children irresponsibly (because it's not like they actually _think_ about these things, they just breed like animals >mind the sarcasm<), _obviously_ would love to go to school except for these pesky new lives they've brought into the world, and _obviously_ take jobs because that would be much more fulfilling than being a stay-at-home mum. Nobody does that anymore!
Arrgh.. It's frustrating. Maybe these women would like to be in school and getting jobs. Maybe they'd prefer to be _able_ to stay home, to not have to work insane hours to keep their family fed. Has anyone asked them? I think that some of their own lack of shall we say... talent? in parenting, is due to the fact that their _own_ parents didn't teach them how. Somewhere along the line, other things were just too important, and given how the modern family seems to be unravelling it's a bit of a wonder that _anyone_ still raises their own children!
I just wish that people (not necessarily in this order) had more common sense, spoke to their neighbours more often, joined a church with a good outreach program (preferably a Catholic church), and tried to connect to their family a little more. Yes, the modern family needs help, but I don't think it needs state-funded and legislated help to raise the children. I think that the only way they'll really get it right is to go inward as it were. But no one does that anymore. Religion is _so_ passe! Unless it's Wicca, 'cause then you can curse people or bless them with stones. Isn't it kewl?!
>Sigh<
And now for something completely different- courtesy of the Rinkworks crazy libs.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created blue, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable hopes, that among these are Joy, Anonymity, and the pursuit of Endurance.--That to secure these hopes, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes battered of these ends, it is the Right of the People to ignore or to irritate it, and to embellish new Government, laying its foundation on such thoughts and confusing its memories in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Studiousness and Endurance. Intelligence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long plinked should not be changed for light and rubbishy causes; and perfunctorily all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to yawn, while realities are sufferable, than to whack themselves by prophesising the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and bookshelves, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to clean them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their religiousity, to fork such Government, and to lift new fools for christ for their future security.--Such has been the messy sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which maligns them to drop their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Plumber of Shopworn Britain is a history of repeated injuries and memoires, all having in direct object the establishment of a well-read Tyranny over these States.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America do solemnly publish and blink, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Red and Modern States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Chair, and that all political connection between them and the State of Shopworn Britain, is and ought to be totally spoke; and that as Red and Modern States, they have full Power to upend War, skewer Peace, ninjafy Cupidities, defeat Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Modern States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the Protection of Divine Providence, we mutually rule to each other our socks, our hangars and our sacred stupidity.
-- Corrupted excerpt from "The Declaration of Independence
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"One of the best studied efforts." They don't even do an actual study.
"when and how many children you can have... All right, that may take a while but I'm sure there's a plan somewhere for it..."
Already in place in public opinion. Americans don't have to be forced by the government to do anything, just the mainstream media.
Their ability to control us depends on conscent of the stupid. Inform the people, and change public opinion. They have no power to stop you.
That is unless my strange dreams start happening in reality. Will I be shot in an airport, or be stabbing people with knives covered in Nutela. Either way interfering in such things will cause unwanted incidents.
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